About

Background

In the early leagues after Legion, only the most dedicated players were able to hunt down the best jewel for their build.

The jewel economy was entirely reliant on sellers marketing each item separately via the forums or TFT. Sellers had to equip the jewel in-game and stitch together screenshots of each affected notable.

Many players didn't shop around and just accepted jewels sight-unseen if they granted the right keystone.

Everything has changed for buyers since the jewel seeds were cracked.

Any build maker can easily find not only the optimal seed, but often many viable fallbacks as well. Path of Building will even generate bulk trade queries to make the browsing process easier.

Ironically, not much has changed for sellers. There are 3 options:

• Dump tabs

This is by far the fastest method and arguably the best way to make money from selling bulk jewels.

The seller makes a guess at an above-mean price for an arbitrary jewel, lists everything at that price, and steadily decreases it until hopefully everything sells.

This is the best method if you assume that there is a lot of demand for low quality items (such as at league start). However, it outright ignores the potential for jackpots.

• Trade queries

In a perfectly rational world, this would be the most effective way to price timeless jewels. However, many (most?) people use dump tabs, and therefore they use arbitrary prices.

Still, in my experience this method can work for Lethal Pride and Brutal Restraint. Outside of The Traitor, most of the keystones granted by these jewels are not important to buyers.

However, things get complicated when you're comparing against a dozen items with varying generals and devotion mods. Militant Faith in particular has huge variance.

• Actually look at the tree

Just import it into PoB and look at the nodes, right?

The task of thoroughly appraising each jewel involves running the gauntlet of 21 jewel sockets, quickly scanning every notable and then performing a metagame analysis of whether the stats granted are appealing. Needless to say, this method is unrealistic.

Dump tabs seem like the only viable option for people running dozens of 5-way Domains per day. I don't expect this website will change much for people generating that volume of jewels.

However, as the league progresses people will have more to spend on their ideal jewel, and that's where careful appraisal pays off.

I farmed a lot of Legion in a recent private league hosted by Pohx. It occurred to me that in that setting, the trade site was not very useful. Even in an league of 20,000+ players, most of the jewel seeds didn't exist. Some of my jewels sold, but I wasn't satisfied by randomly chucking them into dump tabs.

It occurred to me that it would be great if there was a community compiled spreadsheet of notable timeless jewels I could reference. If I had more dopamine hits while farming jewels I might still be in there making myself blind with KB of Clustering.

And that's it: the goal of Timeless Historian is to make the experience of farming 5-ways more exciting.

FAQ

What is this site?

Timeless Historian is a historial database for timeless jewels. The site periodically polls characters from the Softcore and Hardcore Trade ladders and records any timeless jewels it finds. You can search the database using a jewel in your inventory to see if Timeless Historian has seen any characters using the same seed.

This site attempts to answer the question 'Does anyone use this jewel?' or 'Is this jewel good for anyone?'.

What it isn't is a price checking tool or a replacement for the official trade site.

Why are SSF leagues not listed?

The theory behind Timeless Historian relies on the idea that every equipped jewel reflects a decision.

In a trade league, players can choose between thousands of jewels. In Softcore Trade it's not unthinkable that your one-in-a-million ideal jewel will eventually exist in the league. Obviously the same can't be said of SSF.

This site doesn't record jewels in SSF because they reflect a decision between tens of jewels versus thousands.

Searching individual jewels is still cumbersome

I agree. My goal is to implement bulk searching with stash API integration in the future.

Is there an API?

I don't currently have any plans to make a public API.

There are no results for any of the jewels I'm searching!

As time passes the database will develop a more complete picture of which jewels people are using, and you can expect more average search results. That said, a null result is still meaningful.

How can I submit a bug report or other feedback?

You can email me at timeless_auditor@gmail.com .

Thank you for visiting!